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Thursday, January 10, 2008

Is Christ the Father?

Question: Is Christ the Father himself?

Answer: Christ's answer is clear that the Father is the one He prayed at.

1After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: "Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

John 17:1-3, NIV

If Christ was praying to the Father then He is no the Father.

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|| Maasinhon, 5:55 PM


You're right, Jesus the Christ is not the Father, GOD ALMIGHTY. But they are indeed of the same godhead.

In John 10:30 Jesus the Christ says, "I and the Father are one."

What does that mean?
Blogger Name: Theist, at February 25, 2008 at 3:51 PM  
now, since you put urself in this business, tell me this, do you know what happened to that guy arian? according to his "smart" rules God was not a trinity... the point is though, if God is not a Trinity and if as you point out God prays to the father, then we are pagans right? So that means that the Father is some kind of Zeus, Jesus is i don't know, Apollo? and the Holy Spirit is Mercury? Doesn't God go over and over the fact that He is the way, that whoever has known him has known the Father because as my new friend theist point out He and the Father are one... Now going back to that guy arian, he pretty much had the same ideas as somebody in here but his story is sad...

Arius (256 - 336 AD) was a Libyan theologian and of Berber descent. His father’s name is given as Ammonius. He was tutored by Lucian the Presbyter of Antioch and a non-trinitarian. He was regarded as the founder of Arianism, although its concept was by no means new, which some Christian sects regard as a heresy and was a key issue in the early Church, leading to the formation of the heretical Nicene Creed.

At the turn of the fourth century Arius was already known to hold strong views on theology and was a close associate of Lucian and Meletius (an Egyptian schismatic against Peter I), however following reconciliation in AD 306 Arius was ordained as a Deacon by Peter I (Patriarch of Alexandria: AD 300 - 311). Further disputes led the Bishop (Peter I) to excommunicate Arius, who, however, gained the friendship of Achillas, Peter’s successor. Arius was re-instated and then ordained by Achillas (Patriarch of Alexandria 312 - 313) as the Presbyter of the district of Baucalis in Alexandria in AD 313, but when Achillas died that same year Arius was denied the Patriarchate of Alexandria (to which he aspired) by Alexander I of Alexandria (a Sebellianist heretic).

Arius continued to campaign against trinitarianism. He was excommunicated locally in 321 AD. He was declared orthodox in Asia Minor, where he had fled (323), but he was anathematised by the Council of Nicaea and banished by the Roman Emperor Constantine (325). But in the reaction after Nicaea, where Arius gained support from Clergy across all Europe especially in the east and at one point Arians outnumbered the trinitarians, he came into imperial favour. The emperor had ordered the Athanasians at Alexandria to receive him at communion when he suddenly died under suspicious circumstances immediately after having an audience with the Emperor at the imperial palace. Arians believed that Arius had been poisoned.

u know i really pity people like that, poor beings can't see the light until they die... now as for his death, people believe it was not poison... i guess u can understand what i mean... but anyway, don't waste your time talking about such stupid things... Our God is one and i know deep inside of you you understand it... so did arian...
Blogger George, at March 8, 2008 at 10:09 PM  
oh and look at what this guy proposes:
Ave Maria (The first verse is a quote from the Gospel According to Luke 1:28 and recites the words of the Angel Gabriel when he announced to Mary that she was to conceive the Son of God.)

Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
And blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus.

St Dominic’s additional verse (This verse is controversial as it is heretical and will be omitted from all official services.)

Holy Mary,
Mother of Jesus*,
Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.

*NB in accordance with Arian Catholic Canon the heretical words “Mother of God” are substituted for “Mother of Jesus”. Although this verse is asking for Mary’s intercession to pray to God for us, strictly speaking God must be the focal point of all prayers.

omitting other saints' verses ha *laughs* this guy seems to have more controversies than anybody
Blogger George, at March 8, 2008 at 10:16 PM  
oh as well, if when saying: the Lord is with Thee, if Jesus is not God, are we accusing God of adultery here??????????????
Blogger George, at March 8, 2008 at 10:18 PM  
oh by the way, the bio and that other thing... they are from arian-catholic.org a arian pro site...
Blogger George, at March 8, 2008 at 10:40 PM  

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